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廚房消失的魚蛋 2017-5-30 12:04 PM

Freshly graduate debating whether to work

I will be graduating in a couple of months from a biochemistry master program in Canada.  (BS.c in mathematics and chemistry.) Currently, age 24.  I'm fluent in English, Cantonese and mandarin both verbal, written.
Why do I want to work in hk?
1. I have been in Canada for 20 years, I really miss the food in Hong Kong.
2. Many more opportunities in terms of career and promotions? (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Concerns
1. High standard of living, especially rent
2. Zero work experience  
If you guys were in my shoes what would you choose? Stay in Canada? Go to the states? Or go back to hk?

gaia_0927 2017-5-30 01:54 PM

Stress vs Relax
Fun vs Boring
Hk vs Ca

Julian-16 2017-5-30 09:45 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]廚房消失的魚蛋[/i] 於 2017-5-30 12:04 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462133144&ptid=26688264][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I will be graduating in a couple of months from a biochemistry master program in Canada.  (BS.c in mathematics and chemistry.) Currently, age 24.  I'm fluent in English, Cantonese and mandarin both ve ... [/quote]


young man, we could give you comment but literally you will have to decide on your own what you want.
I am surprised when you said the reason is food in HK...

the starting point in HK is very likely lower than CA. However, you were right about promotion and career advancement, surely there are more opportunities or companies you could choose from.
Rent is expensive, I am not sure if you have citizenship in HK, otherwise you could work as expat and some companies are willing to cover it for you (surely it will depends on your bargaining power, why does a conpany need you so much).
I am not sure what biochem could do in HK honestly, you might have better idea but my gut feeling is there are only few companies needs to hire people who hold master degree in biochem, please correct me if I am wrong.

廚房消失的魚蛋 2017-5-31 10:18 AM

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young man, we could give you comment but literally you will have to decide on your own what you want.
I am surprised when you said the reason is food in HK...

the starting point in HK is very like ... [/quote]
Thank you for your constructive feedback, yes I have the Hong Kong citizenship.  What you said is very true.  The society doesn't really value in research as much as North Americans do...

narius 2017-6-2 10:56 AM

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Why do I want to work in hk?
1. I have been in Canada for 20 years, I really miss the food in Hong Kong.
2. Many more opportunities in terms of career and promotions? (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Concerns
1. High standard of living, especially rent
2. Zero work experience  
If you guys were in my shoes what would you choose? Stay in Canada? Go to the states? Or go back to hk?
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1) Well, no one can argue about your food preferences.
2) You are wrong. North America has MUCH better career opportunities in STEM fields than HK. Just look up how many biotech companies are there in HK. To be fair, I am talking more about US than Canada, since I live in the US.

1) Yes. You are going to pay a lot for a tiny apartment in HK. From what I read, housing is so affordable (the median income/median home price ratio is ~17 in HK, WORST in the world) that just that is a deal breaker.

2) Zero work experience applies to wherever you go.

I would not go back to HK even if they pay me double. Aside from career concerns (I am in STEM too), I won't subject my kids (family is probably not your concern yet) to the horrible education system, and more importantly, the super materialistic outlook in HK. I am not giving up a nice house with a big yard for a tiny apartment that is smaller than my kitchen. I am not giving up a nice leisure commute (driving) to braving the crowds, and traffic jams. So no, I am not going back to HK. Even visiting is less and less appealing now. But that is just me.

cashforfree82 2017-6-7 10:39 PM

You don't need to justify

tangc9hkhk 2017-6-13 11:16 AM

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Thank you for your constructive feedback, yes I have the Hong Kong citizenship.  What you said is very true.  The society doesn't really value in research as much as North Americans do... [/quote]
I was clinical researcher for 10 years and changed my career in 2009. In HK[b],[/b] doing research is not as valued as other country. Besides[b],[/b] the career is development is not good. It's time consuming to looking for the answers for the research question. So[b],[/b] be open and try something new.
Good luck &I add oil

新加坡港女 2017-6-15 12:51 AM

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zodiac10 2017-6-17 05:08 PM

Don't go back to HK unless your parents are here.
Life is tough, and the living expense is so high that so many people cannot afford.
People are hard to get married because of the high rent and low income.
I am working in the Government and I can see many people in Hong Kong have a hard life.
Peope studying biochem have no hope here. Fresh graduates are competing for low end jobs like clerks or ACO inside Government.
Don't come back, I promise you will feel regretful..

happyuncle 2017-6-29 08:52 AM

Don't back to HK. Local people have a fight with government in future.:smile_30: :smile_30:

Leavingsoon 2017-8-20 03:15 AM

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narius 2017-8-20 11:07 PM

I wouldn't

1) If you are in STEM, career-wise, NA is much better.
2) Unless you want to pay a fortune for a tiny apartment, stay here in NA. Housing sucks up all your disposable income and lower your living standard in HK.
3) At some point, you may want to start a family. I would not (have not) raise my kids in HK.
4) HK people are super materialistic (just read the forums here). I would much rather hang out with Americans or Canadians.

Datsang 2017-8-21 03:28 AM

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I will be graduating in a couple of months from a biochemistry master program in Canada.  (BS.c in mathematics and chemistry.) Currently, age 24.  I'm fluent in English, Cantonese and mandarin both ve ... [/quote]

I tend to agree with most people's views that the working environment in HK is a lot less favourable than Canada.  But that really depends on what you like to do and what your expectations are.
I would suggest you do your job hunts in both Canada and in HK, see what offers can you get and then decide.

Datsang 2017-8-21 03:41 AM

One remark I would to make is that the salary and allowance you get from the UK government or university are almost certain not favourable if not higher than what you get from the Canadian institutes on similar positions.  You may find their incentives too irresistible to miss.

Datsang 2017-8-21 08:35 PM

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One remark I would to make is that the salary and allowance you get from the UK government or university are almost certain not favourable if not higher than what you get from the Canadian institutes  ... [/quote]

Oops, should read more favourable...

seaweedasia65 2017-9-9 08:31 PM

depends on what you like, tell us more information

月楓俠 2017-9-12 05:51 AM

no regret

月楓俠 2017-9-12 05:52 AM

depends on

風中老叔 2017-9-13 01:39 PM

楼主,你自己应该做好过比较,
我们怎知你的行业嘅?

,仲有你第一件事就是因为食物才会hk.
这个有点幼稚吧。

風中老叔 2017-9-13 01:41 PM

究竟你的学历,和可能的行业和前途career path 是怎么样.
你自己有冇计算下呢?

香港没有制造业,科研也没有,不如你来新加坡,RnD is few % of GDP。

風中老叔 2017-9-13 01:43 PM

如果你回大陆,
和海归派竞争,
唯一的优点是可能识多样广东话方言,不过他们亦可能有其他方言。

seaweedasia65 2017-9-15 07:07 PM

i think you can try it out

melodymel 2017-10-16 07:43 AM

I think u will regret if u come back......

henrypottinger 2017-10-23 03:29 AM

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