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Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-10-13 07:58 PM

Working in Hong Kong, expectations?

Hi I am looking to move (back) to Hong Kong for at least a year. Looking to hear some insights to determine where my expectations and targets should be in terms of work.
I enjoy my current field, but it may be too specific and I don't want to limit myself. I'm trying to see what are some other opportunities available and where my realistic expectations should be for things like salary, and what kind of lifestyle that can afford.

[b]THANK YOU[/b]


Background: Moved from HK to US twenty years ago as a 12 year old, never worked in Hong Kong. Current job is supply chain analyst at a large healthcare system making about $50k/year USD pre-tax in the Washington DC area. Previous experience in the medical technology industry as well.
No wife no kids.
Fluent Cantonese and English, passable Mandarin. Although aside from a short term call center job I have never ever had to use any bilingual skills.
I like cities but I don't really have a need to go out (for fun) during weekdays so I'm okay with commuting, I lived in Sai Kung when I was young.

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-10-17 08:00 PM

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Are there anything I can be more specific about to get better responses? Thank you.

Western_Sausage 2016-10-24 07:45 AM

Go get a job with JNJ

displaplay 2016-10-26 01:01 AM

Hi, may I know if your company have branch in Hk? And what is your salary and other expectations?

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-10-27 08:54 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]displaplay[/i] 於 2016-10-26 01:01 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=450433783&ptid=26163326][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Hi, may I know if your company have branch in Hk? And what is your salary and other expectations? [/quote]

No branch I work for a regional hospital system

I made the thread because I am not sure how to set my expectations. My current annual salary is $54,000 USD pre-tax in the Washington DC area ( [url=https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/index/north-america]third highest area in US[/url] )

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displaplay 2016-10-28 08:02 PM

I think u can get a job here with similar salary (if u have 8-10yr exp), middle or management grade

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-10-29 01:04 AM

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I think u can get a job here with similar salary (if u have 8-10yr exp), middle or management grade [/quote]

I only have about four years of real, career building professional experience.

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displaplay 2016-10-30 09:34 PM

Then you may expect HKD 25-28k/ month

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-10-31 08:54 PM

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Then you may expect HKD 25-28k/ month [/quote]

Thanks, what kind of living situation can I expect? Is roommates a popular arrangement? (which I do not mind)

Is Kowloon City realistic? No MTR so I figure it would probably be cheaper but still in "civilization"...

displaplay 2016-11-2 12:28 PM

Roommates are more common among undergrad students, some of them will continue share flats after they grad, you may have to contact local agents for the living arrangements, some ppl will find their roommates on Internet before contacting agents. If share flat, it will cost around 3.5-6 k hkd depending on the location and how many of you share a flat. Kowloon city is one of the cheaper option, but as u said, without mtr it makes daily transport less convenient. U may go Jordan, Kwan tong or yau ma tei area (if u prefer Kowloon) they are older areas but with mtr and lots of public transport like buses and minibus. If you don't mind living in new territories, there should be other cheap options

淫賤天不欺 2016-11-4 05:13 PM

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黑貓蛋撻 2016-11-15 04:33 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Siu_Tin_Tin[/i] 於 2016-10-13 07:58 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=449671172&ptid=26163326][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Hi I am looking to move (back) to Hong Kong for at least a year. Looking to hear some insights to determine where my expectations and targets should be in terms of work.
I enjoy my current field, but ... [/quote]
eh, I don't know why you'd even want to come back in the first place. DC is nice and 50k isn't really too bad relative to the general population. Are there any opportunities for promotions within your organization? I'm in the medical field myself and there is tons of growth at the moment. I'm assuming you went to undergrad somewhere in the states with some kind of basic science degree?

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-11-16 11:09 PM

I have some personal motivations and family reasons for wanting to come back (at least temporarily). I didn't make it clear in my initial post, I can return to the states to work anytime I want or if things don't work out in HK. I'm also still single with no children which gives me the freedom to move across the world (again).

I have a BS in mechanical engineering.
Obviously, more money is always welcomed, but I want to have realistic expectations in my job search. I'm very out of touch with the HK working world as I have lived in the states since I was 12.

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narius 2016-11-17 12:17 AM

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I have a BS in mechanical engineering.
Obviously, more money is always welcomed, but I want to have realistic expectations in my job search. I'm very out of touch with the HK working world as I have lived in the states since I was 12. [/quote]

I don't think you will fit in very well. Last time I visited HK, it was crowded beyond belief, traffic is horrible, and housing is affordable even if you are a professional (unless you count a small apartment livable).

Is it about a girl? If so, you are better off talking her to come to the US.

But i suppose, on the bright side, you get to escape Trump.

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-11-17 09:33 PM

Well family is obvious, I want to spend more time with my really really aging grandma and also my cousins, my family is one of the few in the US.

Personal motivations are for the experience and to try. I've always wondered what would have happened if I never came to the states, if I had went to HK post graduation, when US was in a recession and I had no job etc etc. And I'm always going to be wondering unless I try, again, I can afford to fail and I have a backup if I choose to quit the experience. Although I am fine where I am now, I want to continue to challenge and push my boundaries. I am 31, but I am still want to grow more and learn.

A BONUS is that I've been told my language skills is great but I've almost never had use for it in my professional experience, I think in Hong Kong I will have more opportunities to test myself.

This thread has gone on a little tangent; I'm not depressed but thank you for reading and responding to my personal thoughts.

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Virgo10 2016-11-26 12:34 AM

Don't come back. Hong Kong is trully a mess now.
People are always OT ing without pay.
Students are having heavy workload.
The politics here is very bad and without future.
Hong Kong is DEAD.

vinylly 2016-11-26 07:53 PM

you should really do some research in the jobs that you are interested in or match your skills and experience.
even just a quick job search should give you an idea of the salary range you can expect.
many job postings have salary listed.
try that

Siu_Tin_Tin 2016-11-28 09:35 PM

What are the most popular online job search resources?

I've browsed jobsdb; what about US-popular sites like LinkedIn?

你幫我咬 2016-12-14 12:26 PM

those that can pay high for medical field are private hosps. u can locate those few and check their websites.
govt hosp also hire with a modest salary.
living - dont expect too much. i suggest u can live near ur workplace. find the job first... before that, live in serviced apartments. cheapest ones are around 12-15k per month for "reasonable" std

hoburto 2017-2-1 08:19 PM

I'd say come back otherwise you will never know. You need to be in hk before any employer/job agencies take you seriously. Rent is expensive for sure, food is getting expensiver. Taxes are still low though.

happyuncle 2017-2-8 09:35 AM

Family matter and then come back Hong Kong.
I suggest you should go to do more research about the jobs industry, salary, living area etc.
Living in Hong Kong isn't a good choice for you.
High inflation of rent is very common in Hong Kong.

Atagent 2017-3-14 11:10 PM

I moved to the States when I was ~11, lived there for the past 30 years, and just moved back last year.  Given what I've read, you should come back and visit first.  Spend a little bit of time here before committing to move back, especially during the hot and humid months.  You don't have wife and kids so that's a plus, but don't expect to find a job so easily, and the living situation won't be great for most people.

Wanting to be closer to aging family is great.  That's the only reason we moved back.  If you're not financially independent, HK isn't that great of a place to be.  Visit more often first, then decide later.

Good luck!

narius 2017-3-15 09:23 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Atagent[/i] 於 2017-3-14 11:10 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=457983531&ptid=26163326][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I moved to the States when I was ~11, lived there for the past 30 years, and just moved back last year.  Given what I've read, you should come back and visit first.  Spend a little bit of time here before committing to move back, especially during the hot and humid months.  You don't have wife and kids so that's a plus, but don't expect to find a job so easily, and the living situation won't be great for most people.

Wanting to be closer to aging family is great.  That's the only reason we moved back.  If you're not financially independent, HK isn't that great of a place to be.  Visit more often first, then decide later.[/quote]

I feel your pain. I would never move back because of the horrible housing situation, crowds and the general materialistic outlook of most people. It is much easier to get family to come to the US to visit. With free video calls, the need to be at the same place is no longer that strong.

gumyeungyeung 2017-3-16 05:28 PM

I always think that there is a lot of ways out. So keep your eyes open and look around, would definitely get something good

iloveka12 2017-4-27 11:07 PM

I think u can get more challenge job

香港永恆的希望 2017-5-6 11:02 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Siu_Tin_Tin[/i] 於 2016-10-13 07:58 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=449671172&ptid=26163326][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Hi I am looking to move (back) to Hong Kong for at least a year. Looking to hear some insights to determine where my expectations and targets should be in terms of work.
I enjoy my current field, but ... [/quote]


find a similiar job in Hong Kong first,before you come back

Western_Sausage 2017-5-20 07:40 AM

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find a similiar job in Hong Kong first,before you come back [/quote]
That's a tough one

esprithk 2017-7-10 08:56 PM

Expect to pay income tax on both sides.  Priority is to understand the living cost in HK.   

You probably do not want to be too local style in food choice, so about US$10 per lunch is expected.  If you eat out alot, that will be about US$20 per person.  


For housing, most expats prefer HK island especially the west side, such as Sheung wan,  Kennedy Town, Sai Yin Pung, Mid level West.
Rent is expecting HK$18000 per month.


You may also visit some expat web sites for more information.

Actually HK has many outdoor activities such as hiking, cycling, mountain biking, even horse back riding, etc.     HK is not boring.

HK also has many theatre plays and huge selection of movies from all over the worlds, as well as many international food festivals.


For TV, most expats use NOW TV which has a good balance of english channels and chinese channels.  Or you can use Netflix.

Western_Sausage 2017-7-10 09:20 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]esprithk[/i] 於 2017-7-10 08:56 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=464307501&ptid=26163326][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Expect to pay income tax on both sides.  Priority is to understand the living cost in HK.   

You probably do not want to be too local style in food choice, so about US$10 per lunch is expected.  If y ... [/quote]
No need to pay both sides if you sign an US foreign earned income exclusion

esprithk 2017-7-10 09:40 PM

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No need to pay both sides if you sign an US foreign earned income exclusion [/quote]
It depends on the country, and whether the country has a double taxation treaty with the country you are working in.

For HK, the double taxation treaty applies up to US$ 90K

So, no double taxes up to 90K.  Anything higher then you get taxed.
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