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mccdnd 2012-11-24 01:31 PM

which job u prefer?

a small company 20ish people, English speaking environment, sales duties involved but exposures to deal with people all over asia. fashion related industry.

massive corporate, local team 100 people, no sales job at all pure strategic marketing, industrial products.



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overcloudy 2012-11-24 02:21 PM

I prefer the second one.
It depends on whether you prefer the sales job and the strategic one.

antonyd 2012-11-24 04:52 PM

any perks ?

YASN 2012-11-24 09:42 PM

same money? where do you fit in this 20ish (1st job) or 100 people (2nd job)? At the top, bottom?

linaa 2012-11-25 12:56 AM

what positions do they offer?

jimbo86 2012-11-25 03:58 AM

it depends on where u consider the comfort zone, being in HK able to speak & write white daily has its + & -.
the good side is after several yrs u can speak  n write more fluent white which does help u to go places. and even immigrate to some white speaking country.
the bad side is u're forced into the white culture u may hate every moment of it too.
then again many think speaking fluent mandarin will also help them to go places, but sadly we southerners  ( from canton to HK ) were never considered their in crowds anyways.

i personally view doing sales may have greater control of the situation, and u're there to bring in cash flow, internal strategy planning u still need the cash flow to float your boat.
in the old days all cars sales have this slogan " racing sundays, selling mondays"

some of us rather do things individually,  hide away like a hermit and shun the public at large, but i much rather talk to ppl than stare the 4 walls trying to speak to myself.
if u're a female or minority of male  , fashion biz is easier to relate to than some industrial machinery, just the thought of it can give u a splitting migraine headache
nothing short of oxycodone will stop it from explode.

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antonyd 2012-11-25 07:40 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimbo86[/i] 於 2012-11-25 03:58 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=348204852&ptid=21172141][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
if u're a female or minority of male  , fashion biz is easier to relate to than some industrial machinery, just the thought of it can give u a splitting migraine headache
nothing short of oxycodone will stop it from explode.
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I agree with the fasion part. Plus, having a global exposure (albeit limited to Asian Pacific) will certainly make a good bargaining chip for future endeavors in the fashion industry or elsewhere.

mccdnd 2012-11-25 12:51 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]YASN[/i] 於 2012-11-24 09:42 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=348178871&ptid=21172141][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]same money? where do you fit in this 20ish (1st job) or 100 people (2nd job)? At the top, bottom? [/quote]first one would be a sales and marketing executive, working directly alongside with the boss while its just a 4 to 5 people team. I will be asked to sales obviously dealing with clients directly in the pan Asia region including Aussie. second one, I am one of the 3 smallest potatos in a 10 people team.

the basic salary of the first job is already more than the second one..


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jimbo86 2012-11-25 03:19 PM

then is no brainer, if u can make more and is fashion industry,
whereas the 2nd one is some industrial sales. U knew nothing about it. can u really relate to it?
every time u answer someone u may need a few moments to study the manual or your notes.
u got to be masochist to enjoy that!

YASN 2012-11-26 12:04 AM

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sounds like you like the 1st one better.

mccdnd 2012-11-26 08:18 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimbo86[/i] 於 2012-11-25 03:19 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=348229900&ptid=21172141][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]then is no brainer, if u can make more and is fashion industry, whereas the 2nd one is some industrial sales. U knew nothing about it. can u really relate to it?every time u answer someone u may n ... [/quote]thanks jimbo.  I have seen you leaving comments everywhere in this forum and some of them have been so helpful and straight to the point! its great to have your opinions on my case! :))

the second one is mnc (local team) construction related industry. my company is definitely the leading one in the field. that's why I am in doubt whether I should leave while my previous work experience ain't that solid and rich. plus its offering a very good benefits so to speak. yes you are right that im not interested in the products at all. and my job role is pure marketing, strategic planning.

the fasion one is young! nothing close to be a sme. but it seemingly offers a greater access to different countries in the Asia as my role is 50% sales.



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mccdnd 2012-11-26 08:22 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]YASN[/i] 於 2012-11-26 12:04 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=348266042&ptid=21172141][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]sounds like you like the 1st one better. [/quote]h'm...yes man...



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jimbo86 2012-11-26 09:09 AM

sometimes we take low hanging fruits, but it can be double edge sword.

u have 2 advantages
1) u get to speak & write white , which is not easy to get that kind of training. u either get better or no. But soon as u get to speak enuf u can go to more places.

2) fashion and gals are mutually inclusives.
unless u're a real tomboy then u may wanna to play with cars and whatever turns your crank.

industrial sales can be real hard, dont get me wong, few females out there do work at auto parts counter too.
I buy my car parts from a blond lady quite often and i have confidence in her to get the right parts.

smallspeculator 2012-11-30 07:39 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]overcloudy[/i] 於 2012-11-24 02:21 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=348154105&ptid=21172141][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]I prefer the second one.It depends on whether you prefer the sales job and the strategic one. [/quote]i prefer the latter one also. as i like to work at a bigger company



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mccdnd 2012-12-3 01:54 PM

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actually i had been working for the second one and found it boring! Plus, i aint interested in the products. However, the big company is structured, organised. Nothing wrong with its company. but I left. :smile_27:

tombo18 2012-12-3 04:09 PM

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YASN 2012-12-4 01:05 AM

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So there is a third company in the picture???

mccdnd 2012-12-4 06:09 PM

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No i had been working for the second one when i got the offer from the first one. I was thinking about to change to the first. and now i left for the first one already
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